Episodes
Monday Jul 15, 2024
Revelation with Wes Howard-Brook part 1
Monday Jul 15, 2024
Monday Jul 15, 2024
In this episode, Rob discusses the book of Revelation with Wes Howard-Brook. Wes' understanding of what Revelation means for the people of God today may well be the most refined and provocative. This is one interview you won't want to miss, and you will likely need to replay several times as you process the implications for the book of Revelation today.
Wes Howard-Brook has been teaching, writing and living at the intersection of church, academy and the world since 1988. After a career as an attorney for the US federal government and Washington state governments, Wes left law practice in 1985 to earn a Master of Divinity degree at Seattle University. During the late 1980s and early 1990s, he was part of Galilee Circle, an ecumenical Christian small community, which sought to live the radical Word of the Gospel in both personal and public ways, including a series of nonviolent direct actions at various private and public places of warmaking and imperial violence. He taught Bible and theology at Seattle University from 2003-2021. Now retired, Wes continues his Scripture work via a YouTube channel, Radical Bible.
He has written, co-written or co-edited seven books, including two on the Gospel of John: Becoming Children of God: John’s Gospel and Radical Discipleship and John’s Gospel and the Renewal of the Church. He is co-author of Unveiling Empire: Reading Revelation Then and Now. Wes’ recent project is the two-volumes “Come Out, My People!:” God’s Call Out of Empire In the Bible and Beyond. and Empire Baptized: How “Christianity” Embraced What Jesus Rejected, 2nd-5th Centuries. He has also written for numerous publications, including Sojourners, The Other Side, Tikkun Daily, and several Catholic Worker newspapers.
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Monday Jul 08, 2024
Revelation with Michael Gorman
Monday Jul 08, 2024
Monday Jul 08, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie discuss the book of Revelation with pre-eminent NT scholar Michael Gorman. Professor Gorman holds the Raymond E. Brown Chair in Biblical Studies and Theology at St Mary’s Seminary and University. He is the author of;
Reading Revelation Responsibly
Mike has been on the DT podcast previously to discuss “Cruciformity”
Michael Gorman on the DT podcast ; and the book of Romans
Michael Gorman on the DT podcast
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Monday Jul 01, 2024
Revelation with Alexander Stewart
Monday Jul 01, 2024
Monday Jul 01, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie discuss the book of Revelation with Alexander Stewart. Alex is vice president of academic services, academic dean, and professor of New Testament studies at Gateway Seminary in California. Among other books and articles, he has authored Reading the Book of Revelation: Five Principles for Interpretation (Lexham Press, 2021) and the recently released volume on Revelation in the Exegetical Guide to the Greek New Testament series published by B&H (2024).
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Monday Jun 24, 2024
Revelation with Tremper Longman Part 2
Monday Jun 24, 2024
Monday Jun 24, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie continue their discussion with OT scholar Tremper Longman. They discuss Rev 13 and the Beast and what the book of Revelation means for the church today.
Dr. Tremper Longman III (B.A. Ohio Wesleyan University; M.Div. Westminster Theological
Seminary; M.Phil. and Ph.D. Yale University) is Distinguished Scholar and Professor Emeritus
of Biblical Studies at Westmont College. He has written over thirty-five books including
commentaries on Genesis, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Daniel, Nahum, and Revelation. Among his most recent books include Confronting Old Testament Controversies: Pressing Questions about Evolution, Sexuality, History and Violence and Revelation through Old Testament Eyes. His book The Old Testament as Literature just appeared with Baker Books. He is also Senior Translator of the New Living Translation. He is married to Alice and has three sons and seven granddaughters, and a grandson. He and Alice now live in Alexandria, Virginia.
Reading Revelation through OT Eyes
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Monday Jun 17, 2024
Revelation with Tremper Longman Part 1
Monday Jun 17, 2024
Monday Jun 17, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie begin a conversation with OT scholar Tremper Longman. Tremper has written a fantastic commentary titled "Reading Revelation Through OT Eyes."
Dr. Tremper Longman III (B.A. Ohio Wesleyan University; M.Div. Westminster Theological
Seminary; M.Phil. and Ph.D. Yale University) is Distinguished Scholar and Professor Emeritus
of Biblical Studies at Westmont College. He has written over thirty-five books including
commentaries on Genesis, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Daniel, Nahum, and Revelation. Among his most recent books include Confronting Old Testament Controversies: Pressing Questions about Evolution, Sexuality, History and Violence and Revelation through Old Testament Eyes. His book The Old Testament as Literature just appeared with Baker Books. He is also Senior Translator of the New Living Translation. He is married to Alice and has three sons and seven granddaughters, and a grandson. He and Alice now live in Alexandria, Virginia.
Some of his books include:
Reading Revelation through OT Eyes
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Monday Jun 10, 2024
Revelation: Interview with Warren Carter
Monday Jun 10, 2024
Monday Jun 10, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie discuss the book of Revelation, empire, and the Church with renowned NT scholar Warren Carter!
Here are some links to Warren's books
Seven Events that shaped the NT world
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Monday Jun 03, 2024
Revelation 22 The End
Monday Jun 03, 2024
Monday Jun 03, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie discuss Revelation's Epilogue (22:6-21). We consider: what does it mean that these things will "soon take place"?; The promises of Blessing; the exhortation to "come"; and the closing, "Come, Lord Jesus."
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Show Notes:
“Faithful and true” (3:14; 19:11; 21:5; 22:6).
What must take place soon (22:6)
- “in the latter days” (Dan 2:28) or “in the future” (Dan 2:29, 45), has become for John, “what must take place soon” (1:1; 22:6).
The promise of blessing for, “the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book”
22:8-9 John attempts to worship the angel
Do not seal up these words: “because the time is near” (22:10; 1:3; Dan 12:4).
“The one who does wrong let him still do wrong, the one who is unclean let him still be unclean, the one who is righteous let him still do righteousness, and let the one who is holy let him still be holy” (22:11; Dan 12:10)
- John is encouraging it to happen in that it represents a fulfillment of prophesy.?
Jesus declares that He is, “the Alpha and the Omega” (22:13). Father? Each time the title expands:
- 1:8 Alpha and Omega
- 21:6 Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End
- 22:13 Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning & End
The “ones who wash their robes” are blessed and “they will have the right to the tree of life and may enter through the gates into the city” (22:14).
- “washed” only twice in the book of Revelation: the other is in 7:14
“outside” (22:15): What does it mean “outside”
- “outside” means in the least, “not in the Holy City.”
Jesus’ self-identification “I am the root and the descendant of David” (22:16).
Jesus also declares that He is “the bright morning star” (22:16).
Four commands/exhortations: which center on “Come”
- “The Spirit and the Bride” say, “Come.”
- “the one who hears” is exhorted to say, “Come.”
- “the one who is thirsty” to “come” (22:17; Isa 55:1)
- “let them take freely the gift of the water of life” (22:17).
The angel exhorts, “everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book” (22:18).
- First, “If anyone adds to them [the words of the book], God will add to them the plagues that are written in this book” (22:18).
- Second, “and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away their part in the Tree of Life and from the Holy City that are written in this book” (22:19)
“I am coming soon” (22:20).
“Amen. Come, Lord Jesus” (22:20).
It is framed as a letter
“grace” occurs only two times in the entire book of Revelation: here and in 1:4
Monday May 27, 2024
Revelation 21:9-22:9 The New Jerusalem Part 2
Monday May 27, 2024
Monday May 27, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie complete their discussion of the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is the description of the people of God (us; all believers in history; OT/NT saints alike) dwelling in the presence of God. John describes our dwelling in God's presence as a great city with streets of Gold and gates of pearls. But what about the unbelievers? Where are they? Listen to see what Rob and Vinnie think.
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Show Notes:
NJ is the bride: described as a city; which is a temple; which is only the Holy of Holies
12 occurrences of 12:
- 3x in 21:12: “twelve gates”; “twelve angels” “the names of the twelve tribes
- 3x in 12:14 “twelve foundation stones”; “twelve names of the twelve apostles”
- 1x in 21:16 “12,000 stadia.”
- 2x in 21:21 “the twelve gates are twelve pearls.”
- 1x in 22:2, the Tree of Life has “twelve fruits.”
- 2x in 21:17? “144 cubits” (12x12)
Twelve jewels
They likely recall the twelve stones of the High Priest’s breastplate (Exod 28:17-20 LXX; 39:8-14)
John does not see a temple because the whole city is the temple (21:22).
Two key themes:
- Throne of God heaven-comes down
- The nations redeemed
Outside: (see 22:15)
- how can there be an “outside” if the NJ fills the whole earth?
God dwelling entire creation with His people
- Eden was to expand and fill the Earth
- “Whole earth is full of His glory” Isa 6:3
22:1-5 New Jerusalem as Eden
River of the water of life is the Holy Spirit
The Tree of Life (22:2)
There will no longer be any curse (22:3)
The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it (22:3).
They shall see His face 22:4 (Exod 33)
His Name will be on their foreheads (22:4)
No more night (22:5)
They [His servants] will reign forever and ever (22:5; see 1:6; 5:10; 20:6)
Monday May 20, 2024
Revelation 21:9-22:9 The New Jerusalem Part 1
Monday May 20, 2024
Monday May 20, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie continue their look at the New Jerusalem. The Holy City/New Jerusalem is the eternal dwelling place of the people of God. It is described as a city, that is a temple, but in reality, it is the people of God dwelling in the presence of God. Rob and Vinnie also discuss what is "outside" the city. Vinnie inserts a dad joke that needs help.
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Show notes:
The Bride/Holy City, the New Jerusalem descends 21:9-22:9
It is the Eternal dwelling place for God’s people in the presence of God on the restored earth/New Creation
12 things
- Eden: Place of God’s presence: expands and fills the Earth
- Temple: Dwelling of God among – people Lev 26; Ezek 37
- City = Bride / contra Harlot (New Jerusalem = POG)
- Economic reversal
- 12 uses of 12 = POG
- Parallels account of the TW
- Reveals the unity of the OT/NT POG
- Parallels with Ezekiel
- What is it going to be like? Eden restored? Work? Golf? Music? Nah!
- What about hell?
- NJ = already begun
- What does living in accord with the NJ mean for us now!
17:1-3; 21:9-10 Two sections: each women that are cities
Economic reversal “freely”
Parable in Luke 16 Rich man and Lazarus
Bible begins in Eden and ends in Eden
Eden
Prophets expecting: see Isa 51:3; Ezek 36:35; 47:1-7
- Gold: 21:18, 21; Gen 2:11-12
- River of Life 22:1: Eden: “Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden”: Gen 2:10
- The Tree of Life: 22:2; Gen 2:9
- There will no longer be any curse 22:3
“Come, and I will show you” (21:9): carried “away in the Spirit” (21:10); taken “to a great and high mountain” (21:10)
- Mountains symbolized kings and kingdoms; also indicate the place of the temple.
- Mountains also represent places of revelation.
John’s use of hearing and seeing.
- John is told (hears) that he is going to be shown, “the Bride” (21:9): what he sees is, “the Holy City” (21:10).
The “glory of God” (21:11) was a vital component of the temple complex.
We might say: in 21:1-8: the Holy City as a Bride; in 21:9-22:9, the Bride is the Holy City
- But, it is not the Holy City but the temple within the Holy City
21:11: “Her brilliance was like a precious stone, as a stone of crystal-clear jasper”
- “jasper” occurs only four times in the book of Revelation (4:3; 21:11, 18, 19)
Great and high wall: 21:12-14
Holy City also corresponds to the account of the Two Witnesses.
- “measure” only five times (11:1, 2; 21:15, 16, 17): limited to these two accounts
- “measuring rod” only three times (11:1; 21:15, 16) limited to the account of the Two Witnesses and the Holy City further establishing the link between the two.
Length, width, and height of the city are all, “12,000 stadia” (21:16)
- Cube: = the Holy of Holies within the temple
- 12,000 stadia corresponds to the approximate size of the Hellenistic world.
- Holy City/Bride = People of God;
- The unity of the people of God.
the Holy City represents the totality of the OT and NT people of God.
- twelve gates have, “the names of the twelves tribes of the sons of Israel” (21:12),
- the twelve foundation stones of the city wall have, “the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the lamb” (21:14).
- that the walls are “144” cubits (21:17) further establishes that the Holy City represents the combined OT and NT people of God.
- the description of the Holy City, John alludes to both the 144,000 (7:3-8; 14:1-5) and the Great Multitude (7:9-17; 19:1-6).
- Great Multitude in 7:15-17 was a proleptic description the Holy City.
- The allusion to the 144,000 is evident in his reiteration of the “twelve tribes” (21:12).
Monday May 13, 2024
Revelation with Scot McKnight/Cody Matchett
Monday May 13, 2024
Monday May 13, 2024
In this episode, Rob and Vinnie interview NT scholars Scot McKnight and Cody Matchett to discuss their book, "Revelation for the Rest of Us: A Prophetic Call to Follow Jesus as a Dissident Disciple." They discuss how much of the evangelical church in the US has joined ways with Babylon. During this provocative discussion, we engage in issues of militarism, wealth, health care, and how the Church must "Follow the Lamb" as dissident disciples