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Understanding Scripture and the role of the Church in the 21st Century. We will wrestle with the Kingdom of God, the mission of God’s people, and how this applies to the Church in the 21st Century

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Monday Dec 11, 2023

Rev 11 The Two Witnesses

Monday Dec 11, 2023

In this episode, Rob and Vinnie discuss Revelation 11 and the account of the Two Witnesses. Rob will argue that this is the center of the book and the key to understanding John's message. Who are the Two Witnesses? What happens to them? How does God bring redemption to the nations? Listen in to find out.

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Show Notes:

10:1-11:13 is an interlude

Relate to the “prayers of the saints” (8:3, 4):

The interlude of 10:1-11:13 provides the long-awaited answer to the martyrs’ cry of how long.

Measure: prophetic act (Zech 1-2)

We need to ask why “2”?

The OT law of legal witness Deut 17:6; 19:15

“The two lampstands” (11:4):

The seven churches are the “seven golden lampstands” (1:12; 1:13, 20; 2:1, 5).

John regularly uses singular nouns, such as “mouth” (11:5) and “body” (11:8, 9), in his description of them.

“Two olive trees and the two lampstands 11:4

Zech 4:2-3,

The likely OT background for the imagery of fire proceeding out of their mouths is Jer 5:14

Like Elijah they have the ability “to shut heaven, in order that it might not rain” (11:6).

Like Moses they have authority, “over the waters to turn them into blood” (11:6).

Like Moses they are able, “to strike the earth with every plague whenever they wish” (11:6).

“The war”

Their body will lie in the street of the Great City (Sodom and Egypt) 11:8

John links the suffering of the Two Witnesses with the suffering of Christ.

“Three and one-half days”--period of time during which the people of God suffer

7,000 is reminiscent of the number of those who remained faithful at the time of Elijah.

The rest became terrified and gave glory to God 11:13!!

Monday Dec 04, 2023

Rev 10 The Scroll and opened and John will reveal its contents

Monday Dec 04, 2023

In this episode, Rob and Vinnie examine Rev 10:1-11. Rob will argue that Rev 10-11 are the center of the book. The question has been, "How is God going to bring redemption to the nations?" and now we are about to find out.

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Notes:

10:1-11:19 is the center of the narrative of the book of Revelation

The 6^th trumpet then ended in 9:20-21—did not repent

Exod 2:23-25

Exod 3 God says, “Moses!”

10:1-2

The scroll is critical:

Father’s hand
No one worthy
Jesus was slain—worthy
Jesus takes it
Jesus breaks its seals

The fact that all of a sudden there is a Scroll and it is open surely indicates that it is the same scroll

10:3-11

Ezek 2:8-3:3

Ezek 2-3 is about Ezekiel being commissioned as a prophet

Rev 5:1, the Scroll had writing “on the front and back” (Ezek 2:10)

10:11: John is told to prophesy and the contents of his prophesy are 11:1-13!

Monday Nov 27, 2023

Jesus and the Last Days part 1

Monday Nov 27, 2023

This is the first presentation on Jesus and the Last Days. How do we understand the "Last Days" and "the age to come" in the NT? And what does it mean for the church today?

This episode first aired in 2019. For parts 2 and 3 see Mar 2019.

For more information see my book Understanding the New Testament and the End Times

https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-New-Testament-Times-Second/dp/1532649479/ref=sr_1_2?crid=PA2CKA3INCA5&dchild=1&keywords=rob+dalrymple&qid=1628049433&sprefix=rob+da%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-2

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Monday Nov 20, 2023

Life in the Palestinian Territories: Interview with Jack Munayer (EAPPI)

Monday Nov 20, 2023

Rob and Vinnie interview Jack Munayer to talk about Jack's work with the Ecumenical Accompaniment Program in Palestine-Israel. Why would children need an international person to "accompany" them to school? Jack explains their work in the Palestinian Territories. Then we discuss the recent attack on Dauod and Daher Nassar and their status.

That episode was originally aired in 2022 but is being replayed in light of the recent events in Israel-Gaza

Eappi.org Contact person in your country to find out more info on how to get involved

Friends of the tent of nations

Tent of Nations Facebook

Map of Israeli settlements in West Bank

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Monday Nov 13, 2023

Global Warming and the Church

Monday Nov 13, 2023

In this episode, Rob interviews Gary VanderPol as they discuss global warming and the church. Gary gives some practical insights with regard to steps we can take to make a difference.

Gary is a professor, pastor, and activist. He has taught at seminaries in Costa Rica and Denver and pastored Evangelical Covenant churches in Oakland, Berkeley, and Boston. With Soong-Chan Rah he co-wrote Return to Justice: Six Movements that Ignited our Contemporary Evangelical Conscience. He holds a doctorate in the history of global Christianity from Boston University. He is currently coaching and cheering on churches that want to do creation care together.

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Some of the resources Gary mentions include:

Katharine Hayhoe

David Wallace Wells's The Uninhabitable Earth

Norman Wirzba From nature to Creation: A Christian vision for understanding and loving our world

Monday Nov 06, 2023

Rev 8-9 The Seven Trumpets Part 2

Monday Nov 06, 2023

In this episode, Rob and Vinnie discuss in more detail why Rob believes that the 7 Trumpets are not God's wrath, but are instead a description of what happens to the creation when humanity remains in power. Rob also explains why he believes that the 7 Trumpets are a prelude to both the destruction of Rome's economy (the world's economy) and why the 5th and 6th Trumpets are to be understood in light of the war of "Armageddon."

Understanding Rev 8-9 is critical for discerning the meaning of the book of Revelation especially in contrast with the popular readings of Revelation.

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Here is Rob's blog on Global Warming and the book of Revelation

Monday Oct 30, 2023

Rev 8-9 The Seven Trumpets Part 1

Monday Oct 30, 2023

In this episode, Rob and Vinnie look at the 7 Trumpets in Rev 8-9. Rob argues that the 7 Trumpets do not relay God's end-times wrath but that they set forth what happens to the creation when humanity is allowed to remain in power.

Rob identifies several keys in the text that indicate, contrary to what many have suggested, that Revelation 8-9 is not setting forth God's end times wrath, but what happens to the creation when humanity is allowed to remain in power.

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Rev 8-9: 7^th Seal and the 7 Trumpets

8:1 the narrative resumes and the Seventh Seal is broken.

7^th Trumpet 11:15-19: the statement in 11:18 “destroy those who destroy the Earth”
There is a complex overlapping structure to the introduction to the 7 Trumpets that indicate that something is going on!

John is advancing a narrative:

The clear literary progression that occurs in the accounts of the Seals, Trumpets, and Bowls
The 7^th in each of the series of 7’s appears to bring us to the end: 7^th Trumpet we read earlier is obviously the end; yet the 7 Bowls happen afterward
Each of the 3 series of 7’s close with reference to the theophanic manifestations

Theophanic Manifestations

4:5

8:5 adds “earthquake”

11:19 adds “hail”

16:17-21

8:1 7^th Seal

8:2 Intro 7 Trumpets

8:5 end of the 7^th Seal

8:6 7 Trumpets

An angel with a censer in the middle of this (8:3-4)

The relationship between the Seals and Trumpets is seen in that both have a 4-3 pattern

Another link between the accounts of the Seven Seals and the Seven Trumpets is that John includes an interlude in the midst of each series.

the interlude occurs after the account of the Sixth and before the Seventh item in each corresponding series.

They are also related in that they complement one another

The 1^st 4 Seals affected humanity: deception, war, famines—inflation; and death
The 1^ST 4 Trumpets directly affect the four divisions of creation—the earth, the sea, the rivers and springs (freshwater), and the sun, moon, and stars

Then how are they redeemed?

The scroll will reveal how the nations will be redeemed.

Monday Oct 23, 2023

Rev 7 The 144,000 and the Great Multitude

Monday Oct 23, 2023

In this episode, Rob and Vinnie look at Rev 7. Who are the 144,000? Who are the Great Multitude? Rob will argue that the 144,000 and the Great Multitude are the same group. John presents them as a fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham that from your seed all the nations will be blessed and they will become as numerous as the stars and the sand. The main point of Rev 7 is to remind God's people that they have the Holy Spirit so that they may endure the time of suffering and to give them a glimpse of the reward that awaits those who overcome.

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Show notes:

Rev 7:1-17

4 corners: 2x Rev 7:1; 20:8

2 Cor 1:22; Eph 1:13, 14

2 Tim 2:19

Rev 3:10; John 17:15

Gen 15:5

Gen 17:4

Deut 10:22

Servant (14x) 1:1*; 2:20; 6:15; 7:3; 10:7; 11:18; 13:16; 15:3; 19:2, 5, 18; 22:3, 6

Rom 4:11-13

Gal 3:28-29

7:15-18 corresponds to the description of the New Jerusalem 21-22

Hears 144,000

Sees GM

19:13 Blood on His garment before He comes down!

Holy Warriors

144,000 counted
Num 1:3, 18, 20—numbering of people for war
David numbers the Israelites (2 Sam 24) and Israel is judged!

GM Rev 7:9 waving palm branches

Monday Oct 16, 2023

Rev 6-7 Seals and the 144,000

Monday Oct 16, 2023

In this episode, Rob and Vinnie address the 5th and 6th Seals and begin a look at the 144,000 of Rev. They discuss the importance of the "prayers of the Saints" (6:9-11) for the overall narrative as well as what it means for that the people of God are "sealed."

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5^th Seal the souls under the altar 6:9-11

After the opening of each of the first four Seals, John says “I heard” (6:1, 3, 5, 7): With the opening of the Fifth Seal, however, he states “I saw” (6:9).
the account of the Fifth Seal does not include a reference to one of the Four Living Creatures,
Or, a command to “Come,”
Or, a description of a rider on a varied colored horse.

“How long?” (6:10)

Exod 2:23-25

“They should rest for a little while longer” (6:11)

6^th Seal: the nations and the final judgment 6:12-17.

The 5^th was the cry of God’s people
The 6^th is the cry of the nations

The imagery of earthquakes and signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars is common apocalyptic imagery (Isa 34:4 LXX; Isa 13:10-13; 24:1-6, 17-23; Ezek 32:6-8; Hos 10:8; Joel 2:10, 30-31; 3:15-16; Hab 3:6-11; Mark 13:24-26; Acts 2:19-20)

At the birth of Jesus, there were “signs” in the heavens: such as a “star” (Matt 2:2).
At the baptism of Jesus: “he saw the heavens opening” and a “voice came out of the heavens” (Mark 1:10-11; see Matt 3:16-17; Luke 3:21-22).
At the crucifixion of Jesus we are told that “darkness fell over the whole land” (Mark 15:33; see Matt 27:45; Luke 23:44), “the earth shook and the rocks split” (Matt 27:51), and “tombs were opened” (Matt 27:52).
At Pentecost: the descent of the Spirit at Pentecost (Acts 2:19-20).

Earthquakes signify the presence of God. Exod 19:18; Isa 24:18-20; 29:6; Joel 2:10; 3:16.

Mountains: signify kings and kingdoms.

7:1-17 is an interlude (a pause) See also: 10:1-11:14

Both interludes between 6-7^th Seal/Trumpet

4 angels holding back the 4 winds

“4 corners” occurs only here in 7:1 and 20:8

The OT context is found in the “marking” of the people of God in Ezekiel 9:4-6

In the NT, the Holy Spirit is called the Seal of God. (2 Cor 1:21-22; Eph 1:13, 14)

Monday Oct 09, 2023

Rev 6: The Seven Seals (part 2)

Monday Oct 09, 2023

In this episode, Rob and Vinnie look at the 1st four Seals of Rev 6:1-9. This passage is commonly viewed as a series of events that begin in some future time and mark the beginning of the "end times." Instead, Rob and Vinnie note that the Seals relay the devastating effect that the nations bring upon the world when God allows them to remain in power. In addition, they note that the effects of the Seals are felt more deeply by the poor and the marginalized. The fact that most Christians were members of the lower class means that they too are impacted. In fact, a key element of John's presentation of the Seals is that the people of God are impacted by each of the first four Seals.

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Rob’s blogs related to the 7 Seals

7 Seals and Revelation

3rd Seal and Covid

Are the 7 Seals God’s Wrath? #4

Are the 7 Seals God’s Wrath? Part 2 #5

First Seal: the rider on the white horse (6:1-2)

Mark 13:5-6
Matt 24:23-24

There are three basic views as to what this rider represents

The first two views both contend that the rider on the white horse represents Christ.
- The difference between these first two views has to do with whether the rider on the first horse represents Christ at His first coming or if it is a depiction of Christ coming in the future.
The third view suggests that the rider on the white horse represents false Christs and false prophets.

Second Seal: the rider on the red horse 6:3-4

John uses the verb “to slay” eight times.
- Jesus as the Lamb that was “slain” (5:6, 9, 12; 13:8)
- People of God the Fifth Seal are those: “who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had” (6:9).
- 1x: Babylon as the place where one finds “the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth” (18:24)
- “to slay” in 13:3.

Third Seal: rider on the black horse 6:5-6

The Third Seal depicts a world of inflation in which the poor are disproportionately affected

Fourth Seal: Rider on Pale Horse—Death 6:7-8